LOL I have been trying to tell him that. I've been using it for
    years and years without a single hiccup.
    
     On 7/30/13 1:58 PM, Glenn Meadows
      wrote: 
     
    As a trial, he COULD try Thunderbird for
      Mac....<smile>.
       
       
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      Glenn Meadows
       
      Mayfield Mastering
       
      2825 Erica Place
       
      Nashville, TN 37204
       
      615-383-3708
       
       
      On 7/30/2013 12:43 PM, Paul M. Beck wrote:
       
      If you're referring to g_smtp_portforce, I
        tried it and major problems - but I'm getting off topic.
         
         
        I have definitely seen apple mail behave poorly when not
        directed to a specific port for smtp, haven't seen it with imap,
        but I force that in apple mail settings as well.
         
         
        Paul
         
         
         
        On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Glenn Meadows
        <glenn@mayfieldmastering.com> wrote:
         
         
        And force login (require user/password
          for connection) on 587.
           
           
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          Mayfield Mastering
           
          2825 Erica Place
           
          Nashville, TN 37204
           
          615-383-3708
           
           
          On 7/30/2013 12:25 PM, Paul M. Beck wrote:
           
          I have also had Apple Mail not use SSL
            when it was available. Now I always force the port number.
            587 SMTP Auth and 446 SMTP SSL
             
             
             
            On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Chris Ferebee
            <cf@ferebee.net> wrote:
             
             
            What Paul said (RFC 6409).
               
               
              It's convenient to set Apple Mail to "use standard ports"
              for SMTP, which will try ports 25, 465 and 587 as
              necessary, but if your server offers SSL with self-signed
              certificates, this will often cause SSL to be enabled
              automatically as well, which results in "untrusted
              certificate" errors later on.
               
               
              It's really best to use SSL and get a proper certificate.
               
               
              Chris
               
               
               
              Am 30.07.2013 um 19:08 schrieb "Paul M. Beck"
              <pbeck@bexx.com>:
               
               
              He should definitely be using 587
                for SMTP as most ISP's block 25
                 
                 
                Paul
                 
                 
                On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Glenn Meadows
                <glenn@mayfieldmastering.com> wrote:
                 
                 
                Hmm, based on that, what ports
                  is he using for smtp, pop (if using pop, I know you
                  commented in imap) and imap ports? 465/587 for smtp,
                  993 for iMap?
                   
                   
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                  Mayfield Mastering
                   
                  2825 Erica Place
                   
                  Nashville, TN 37204
                   
                  615-383-3708
                   
                   
                  On 7/30/2013 11:58 AM, Randy Zumwalde wrote:
                   
                  Hi Paul,
                     
                     
                    He can still browse the web when the connection is
                    down. We are not using SSL on the mail server. He's
                    tried it at his dads wireless network and also has
                    the same issue unless he changes his smtp to uses
                    his dads service provider (ie. mail.zoomtown.net).
                     
                     
                    On 7/30/13 12:40 PM, Paul M. Beck wrote:
                     
                    I, and a number of my
                      clients use 10.8 without issue.
                       
                       
                      I would expect he is experiencing some sort of
                      network connectivity issue.
                       
                      Apple mail in 10.8 has a connection doctor under
                      the pull down item "Window" it's the 8th item
                      down.
                       
                       
                      Additionally when your client is experiencing
                      these issues can they browse the web, of use the
                      surge mail web front end?
                       
                      Are you using SSL, I've had issues if I didn't
                      force Apple Mail to use the ssl ports.
                       
                       
                      I definitely agree he should try connecting hard
                      wired as well as from a different location (wired
                      and wireless) as he could be having an issue with
                      his wireless card.
                       
                       
                      Paul
                       
                       
                       
                       
                      On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Chris Ferebee
                      <cf@ferebee.net
                      <mailto:cf@ferebee.net>> wrote:
                       
                       
                      Randy,
                         
                         
                        If at all possible I would try to convince him
                        to work over an Ethernet connection for a while
                        to rule out problems with his wireless
                        connection.
                         
                         
                        You could also try to monitor his connection,
                        even by simply running ping in a Terminal window
                        in the background.
                         
                         
                        In my experience, Wi-Fi has been getting less
                        and less reliable over the years, at least in
                        the city. I think we're just seeing ever more
                        networks (and perhaps also other transmissions
                        on the same unlicensed 2,4 GHz frequency band).
                         
                         
                        The error messages certainly seem consistent
                        with a networking issue.
                         
                         
                        If you have a VPN server, you could try setting
                        him up to connect over VPN and see if that makes
                        the problems go away, or alternatively if his
                        VPN connection drops all the time due to the
                        same network issues.
                         
                         
                        Best,
                         
                        Chris
                         
                         
                        Am 30.07.2013 um 17:48 schrieb Randy Zumwalde
                        <zumwalde.rl@ehowe.com
                        <mailto:zumwalde.rl@ehowe.com>>:
                         
                         
                        I have a user that
                          intermittently cannot connect to Surgemail and
                          I'm wandering if there is anything I could do
                          to resolve the issue.
                           
                          He is using Apple Mail on OSX Mountain Lion.
                          Sometimes he connects just fine then an hour
                          later he cannot.
                           
                           
                          He gets an SMTP connection message like this:
                           
                          "Could not connect to this SMTP server. Check
                          your network connection and that you entered
                          the correct information in the Account
                          preferences."
                           
                           
                          At the same time he gets an IMAP message like
                          this:
                           
                          "Could not connect to this IMAP server. Check
                          your network connection and that you entered
                          the correct information in the Account
                          preferences. Also verify that the server
                          accepts connections on port 143. If it does
                          not, change the port number in the Advanced
                          tab of Account preferences."
                           
                           
                          I have no idea why he is having this issue and
                          it is driving him and I nuts. Could it have
                          something to do with his network connection. I
                          believe he works via his wireless connection
                          at home as does most of our remote employees
                          but he seems to be the only one having issues
                          and seems to believe it could be my problem
                          since I run the mail server.
                           
                           
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