Hi Out of left field, is he on a fixed IP??       On Wednesday 31/07/2013 at 04:50:22, Randy Zumwalde  wrote:                Okay will do. Thanks everyone for your help.         On 7/30/13 2:24 PM, Glenn Meadows       wrote:          Tell him to TRY it for several days, since he's IMAP,       all his mail should show up just fine, and see if the problem goes       away. Also, set him up on the higher port number rather than       24/143.                     --              Glenn Meadows              Mayfield Mastering              2825 Erica Place              Nashville, TN 37204              615-383-3708                     On 7/30/2013 1:01 PM, Randy Zumwalde wrote:              LOL I have been trying to tell him that.         I've been using it for years and years without a single hiccup.                           On 7/30/13 1:58 PM, Glenn Meadows wrote:                  As a trial, he COULD try Thunderbird for           Mac....<smile>.                                 --            Glenn Meadows                      Mayfield Mastering                      2825 Erica Place                      Nashville, TN 37204                      615-383-3708                                 On 7/30/2013 12:43 PM, Paul M. Beck wrote:                      If you're referring to             g_smtp_portforce, I tried it and major problems - but I'm             getting off topic.                                       I have definitely seen apple mail behave poorly when not             directed to a specific port for smtp, haven't seen it with             imap, but I force that in apple mail settings as well.                                       Paul                                                    On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Glenn Meadows             <glenn@mayfieldmastering.com> wrote:                                       And force login (require               user/password for connection) on 587.                                             --                Glenn Meadows                              Mayfield Mastering                              2825 Erica Place                              Nashville, TN 37204                              615-383-3708                                             On 7/30/2013 12:25 PM, Paul M. Beck wrote:                              I have also had Apple Mail not use                 SSL when it was available. Now I always force the port                 number. 587 SMTP Auth and 446 SMTP SSL                                                                    On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Chris Ferebee                 <cf@ferebee.net> wrote:                                                   What Paul said (RFC 6409).                                                         It's convenient to set Apple Mail to "use standard                   ports" for SMTP, which will try ports 25, 465 and 587                   as necessary, but if your server offers SSL with                   self-signed certificates, this will often cause SSL to                   be enabled automatically as well, which results in                   "untrusted certificate" errors later on.                                                         It's really best to use SSL and get a proper                   certificate.                                                         Chris                                                                            Am 30.07.2013 um 19:08 schrieb "Paul M. Beck"                   <HIDDEN@bexx.com>:                                                         He should definitely be using                     587 for SMTP as most ISP's block 25                                                               Paul                                                               On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Glenn Meadows                     <glenn@mayfieldmastering.com> wrote:                                                               Hmm, based on that, what                       ports is he using for smtp, pop (if using pop, I                       know you commented in imap) and imap ports?                       465/587 for smtp, 993 for iMap?                                                                     --                        Glenn Meadows                                              Mayfield Mastering                                              2825 Erica Place                                              Nashville, TN 37204                                              615-383-3708                                                                     On 7/30/2013 11:58 AM, Randy Zumwalde wrote:                                              Hi Paul,                                                                           He can still browse the web when the connection                         is down. We are not using SSL on the mail                         server. He's tried it at his dads wireless                         network and also has the same issue unless he                         changes his smtp to uses his dads service                         provider (ie. mail.zoomtown.net).                                                                           On 7/30/13 12:40 PM, Paul M. Beck wrote:                                                  I, and a number of my                           clients use 10.8 without issue.                                                                                 I would expect he is experiencing some sort of                           network connectivity issue.                                                      Apple mail in 10.8 has a connection doctor                           under the pull down item "Window" it's the 8th                           item down.                                                                                 Additionally when your client is experiencing                           these issues can they browse the web, of use                           the surge mail web front end?                                                      Are you using SSL, I've had issues if I didn't                           force Apple Mail to use the ssl ports.                                                                                 I definitely agree he should try connecting                           hard wired as well as from a different                           location (wired and wireless) as he could be                           having an issue with his wireless card.                                                                                 Paul                                                                                                                                       On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Chris Ferebee                           <cf@ferebee.net                          <mailtoHIDDEN@ebee.net>> wrote:                                                                                 Randy,                                                                                       If at all possible I would try to convince                             him to work over an Ethernet connection for                             a while to rule out problems with his                             wireless connection.                                                                                       You could also try to monitor his                             connection, even by simply running ping in a                             Terminal window in the background.                                                                                       In my experience, Wi-Fi has been getting                             less and less reliable over the years, at                             least in the city. I think we're just seeing                             ever more networks (and perhaps also other                             transmissions on the same unlicensed 2,4 GHz                             frequency band).                                                                                       The error messages certainly seem consistent                             with a networking issue.                                                                                       If you have a VPN server, you could try                             setting him up to connect over VPN and see                             if that makes the problems go away, or                             alternatively if his VPN connection drops                             all the time due to the same network issues.                                                                                       Best,                                                          Chris                                                                                       Am 30.07.2013 um 17:48 schrieb Randy                             Zumwalde <zumwalde.rl@ehowe.com                            <mailto:zumwalde.rl@ehowe.com>>:                                                                                       I have a user that                               intermittently cannot connect to Surgemail                               and I'm wandering if there is anything I                               could do to resolve the issue.                                                              He is using Apple Mail on OSX Mountain                               Lion. Sometimes he connects just fine then                               an hour later he cannot.                                                                                             He gets an SMTP connection message like                               this:                                                              "Could not connect to this SMTP server.                               Check your network connection and that you                               entered the correct information in the                               Account preferences."                                                                                             At the same time he gets an IMAP message                               like this:                                                              "Could not connect to this IMAP server.                               Check your network connection and that you                               entered the correct information in the                               Account preferences. Also verify that the                               server accepts connections on port 143. If                               it does not, change the port number in the                               Advanced tab of Account preferences."                                                                                             I have no idea why he is having this issue                               and it is driving him and I nuts. Could it                               have something to do with his network                               connection. I believe he works via his                               wireless connection at home as does most                               of our remote employees but he seems to be                               the only one having issues and seems to                               believe it could be my problem since I run                               the mail server.                                                                                             --                                *Randy Zumwalde* • Tel: 513.651.1888 •                               Mobile/Direct 859.801.1419                                                              IT Manager | The John K. 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